ABOUT THE PODCAST
As we share what we learn about white women's complicity with white supremacy with each other and our listeners, we commit to being:
- Honest: White women have and continue to be super complicit in white supremacy and racist oppression—as white women, we have to name that and reckon and with it. Nothing good comes from avoiding that.
- Unflinching: There are white women who have fought against oppression and other people who have been awful—you can learn about them somewhere else; while we may make an exception every once in awhile, we are dedicated to keeping our focus on the ways in which white women have and continue to make a mess.
- Disruptive: White women need to be and do better; hopefully, learning this history is a step in the right direction and can amplify the work of anti-racist, decolonizing organizations and social movements—especially those led by Black women, Indigenous women, and Women of Color.
- Intersectional: While we focus on race and gender, we don't want to ignore how white women have weaponized those within systems of colonization and capitalism or how our white woman-ness always depends on social class, ability, sexual orientation, gender identity, language, citizenship status, and other aspects of who we are. In particular, we identify as cis, straight, wealthy, able-bodied/thin, non-Native, English-fluent U.S. citizens and consider this the most dangerous type of white lady out there. We will make mistakes and miss things, no doubt, but we pledge to keep learning to know and do better and encourage our listeners to reach out when we veer off track.
About THE HOSTS
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Childhood friends since the early 1990s, we were drawn to each other in junior high through our mutual hatred of the patriarchy and love of swearing. As grown-ass women, we've dedicated ourselves to learning more about how our feminism intersects with our whiteness and identities as settlers. This podcast emerged from our commitment to do whatever we can to disrupt racism and other forms of oppression that we white ladies are so good at perpetuating. When we're not recording our rage and shame for this podcast, our time is filled as moms of young children and jobs as a physician assistant (Mandy) and education scholar and consultant (Katy).
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INFLUENCES
We want to be sure we credit where our ideas and information come from, as well as use whatever platforms we have to amplify the voices of women of color. Below is a list of the scholars, activists, artists, authors, and educators, past and present, whose ideas and lives inform and inspire us. Black, Brown, and Indigenous women like those listed below have long attested to the need for white women to stop making such a mess of things. This podcast is our effort to listen, promote their work, and heed their call to do better. We strongly encourage listeners to check out their writing, speeches, art, and podcasts. Specific references and additional resources for each episode can be found in our episode blog.
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» Rund Abdelfatah
» Michelle Alexander » Carol Anderson » Ella Baker » Daina Ramey Berry » Cori Bush » Austin Channing Brown » Septima Clark » The Combahee River Collective » Kimberlé Crenshaw » Cathy Erway » Crystal Marie Fleming » Alicia Garza » Edna Griffin |
» Kali Nicole Gross
» Ruby Hamad » Myisha Hill » bell hooks » Jameela Jamil » Stephanie Jones » Adrienne Keene » Mikki Kendall » Gloria Ladson Billings » Gen Lai » Audre Lorde » Bettina Love » Cheryl Matias » Mia McKenzie » Monique Melton |
» Shereen Marisol Merjai
» Chanel Miller » Noreen Naseem Rodríguez » Fikile Nxumalo » Leigh Patel » Debbie Reese » Phoebe Robinson » Layla Saad » Michelle Saahene » Kesho Scott » Amanda Seales » Tina Strawn » Adeline Wanatee » Raquel Willis » Matika Wilbur |
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS
Many thanks to the women of color whose friendships have so deeply influenced Mandy and Katy over the years and whose insights provide a good check on us as they put together this podcast—especially Ceci, Christine, Jenice, Judy, Keisha, and Noreen. And many thanks to Sam Griffin for ODL's logo and branding.